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Homeless, Jobless

bertcork started this conversation

My son is homeless and is need of finding a job.  The problem is without an address, he cannot qualify for any assistance.  He is struggling to keep himself out of trouble and doing what is right by looking for work, putting applications in as many places he can.  When he is asked where he lives and he tells him that he is homeless at this time and needs work to be able to get a place to live, he is then brushed off.

 

I am trying to help him as much as possible, however my husband, his step father will not allow him to stay in our home.  I am desperate in seeking help from a sight that I know nothing about.  He needs any help he can muster up.

 

I hope that he does not get so discouraged because of the coldness of our beloved state and city.

 

Desperate,

Betty M Gripp

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VAkeke
 in response to Worried for my firstborn...   I am also in a simular situation, but I am 50 and disabled, living with my son, who was locked up last night for contempt of court for not finishing his DUI "stuff". I am torn to bail him out, it's only a $100, but it might as well be $1,000. I don't have the money to make it until next month, I have a boyfriend, who can provide for me well. I actually lived with him from 12/10 til 12/11, but moved out so my son would not be homeless. I am so frustrated right now, I don't know what to do. It's alot more involved than what I have wrote so far, if you can shed some light on my situation, I would greatly appreciate it. I hope things have gotten better for you and your son. I am so TORN, and it is affecting my physical and emotion health beyound belief. A mother in Virginia
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Worried for my firstborn
I guess im not alone in my situation,sadly. I also have a homless son.
He started having mental breakdowns in his ealy teens I tried so hard to get him help but with no insurance and his refusal it was dificult. His father in prison most of his life was no help. I dont understand he had a pretty good upbringing, I worked pretty good jobs & was able to provide well. I was extremely close to him went to EVERY school function, he was very well loved
. He started doing drugs in highschoo-weed & only God knows what else & things got worse he attempted suicide as number of times. Once even begging md to kill him cuse he could not. He started running away n I would be out half the night searching the streets for him.
It had always been just him, his brother & me. I was lucky to find a wonderful man his senior year and we all moved to his house but my son just hated it and hated him, even refusing to even speak to him. Eventually we got pregnant and still I would go out in the middle of the night everytime he went missing. My husband would get very upset & I thought it best that I better stop that. Right after his graduation he left n did not return, but I know had a newborn to care for. He was with friends then homeless dropped out ok f college after 1 semester no job, spen $7,000 in three months with nothing to show for it, no new clothes or shoes. Eventually he ended up with my mother. But now after a year of constantly battling with him she asked him to leave hes been on the street for 5days. Im worried sick about him but my husband doesnt want him here and we have a two yr old and a ten mth old to think about. Im thinking of offering to pay for a motel or rent a room for him but it would be behind my husbands back. I just dont know what to do. I love him so much
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MessedUpMoose
I can relate to your son's dilemma. I was laid off of my job of 15 years in 2009. In june of 2010 I had a stroke and was the diagnosed with Black Lung Pnuemonia. I recieved benefits until March of this year and have been cut from every means of support I was recieving. Now I am homeless, ill, no job, and scared to death of life or even death for that matter. If he finds a way to get out of the mess he is in, please let me know. I too could use the help or support.
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alwayshere
 in response to homelessnjobless...   I might be able to help.Contact me .
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Need_yeshua
 in response to homelessnjobless...   I'm sorry to hear about what your going through. I to have actually been through HELL, and back. I even faced suicide, and God didn't let me die. Everything that I have been through since, and now. God has been there. God has been there for me, and God WILL be there for you. If you open your heart to God, and sincerely seek HIM.
I would sincerely seek God, and In your own word's. "Say" If you help me Lord from here on out with my need's, and provide. I will seek you everyday, I will attend church, I will tithe, I will live for you first, and people 2nd.
If you sincerely meant that. God will help you.
God still continue's to amaze me. God still continues to be faithful in my life.
God love's you, and as much as HE love's me.
Seek God with all your heart. Do then what you can do, and by faith God will do what you can't do.
Jesus love's you, and so do I.
Shalom, and blessing's.
Mike
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WontGiveUp
 in response to TheAdvisor...   Wonderfully said! I wish I could pass this message on to those that could help but wont! Thank you.
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homelessnjobless
 in response to Dave H...   well I think you are wrong. I am going to be homeless and have been looking for a job for over a year. I just had a baby and i have nowhere to go and cant find employment. all section 8 housing is closed because the economy is shit. I dont have any drug problems and have reliable transportation although probably not for much longer cause i cant afford the payments anymore.
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TheAdvisor
One stigma that blocks what might otherwise be a compassionate response toward the jobless and homeless is the notion that "tough love" will solve everything. Ironically, the notion started out in a Christian book on the subject of child rearing by James Dobson, but the concept has arguably evolved into a rational for cultural Darwinism --- survival of the fittest. More ironic still is that the benevolence efforts of bygone eras would most likely be dismissed as the work of socialists today. The idea that we are our brother's keeper --- to love our neighbor as ourselves --- has been transformed by pop psychology to an endorsement of personal interest above that of a broader community or social responsibility. The self-help gurus over the past 30 years have been repeatedly told us what we want to hear: that we give too much, love too much and can't say "No". To feel angst or guilt is merely "codependent". We must learn how to unravel our own consciences, embrace individualism and declare freedom from that pull of obligation to someone other than ourselves. This is value system is largely new to our culture but it has no doubt added to the suffering of millions of Americans throughout this protracted recession. By contrast, in the poorest of poor countries, you see that much like herd animals people have an innate sense that their odds of survival are better when they stick together --- when they cooperate. Here, we've all but bred that instinct out of our modern "First World" existence.

It's one thing to enable someone with an untreated drug or alcohol addiction --- there is a real case to be made for letting addicts hit rock bottom. But when it comes to mental illness a different set of factors may be at play... I grew up in a place where the only "hobos" were characters in library books. Then President Regan liberated the mentally ill from life in an institution for the sake of their civil rights --- in the midst of another nasty recession, if recollection serves. That's the point in my life where the sight of panhandlers on the streets became routine. Of course, I don't think it is possible to argue in this small post about the merits of Reagan's actions. However, I am sure that giving the institutionalized over to "freedom" on the streets was thought to save the taxpayer money. Like all things in life, however, the "free lunch" was not to be. The next institution to take up the slack became the prison system, many of which are running over costs across the nation --- with taxpayers once again on the hook. Many who are imprisoned really ought to be in treatment programs and are not. Again the taxpayer is on the hook when the mentally disabled end up right back behind bars.

Having said that, I want to draw a clear line between then vs. now and those issues vs. our current economic crisis: Millions of Americans who never thought they would find themselves living out of their cars or in a cheap motel are finding themselves exactly in that place. These are folks who played by the rules, graduated from school, held down a job, paid their dues and maybe even earned a college or vocational degree --- and yet they are unable to fend for themselves. This Great Recession is headed for a double dip, yet what is downright flabbergasting is that most news sites that address unemployment, homelessness and "food insecurity" continue to draw comments from people who are absolutely convinced that the long-term unemployed must be lacking a work ethic, sitting on the couch all day collecting unemployment, under-qualified, etc. In fact, I hear the EEOC is holding hearings with the intent of possibly revising the Civil Rights Act because it is apparently EMPLOYER POLICY to weed out all jobless applicants! Either way, this is a particularly cruel and unusual assumption dumped on the backs of those who have already had it hard enough. More than cruel, it is clueless! There are no bragging rights to unemployment or to losing one's home or to having to hit one's friends and family up for help. Anyone who believes that economic hardship is a lifestyle choice is out to lunch.

I can understand how parents here are struggling against the dysfunction that housing someone with mental or substance abuse problems may pose. In that instance, the key to helping vs. enabling is to make assistance conditional upon some sort of tangible progress --- enrolling in classes, working toward a GED, to overcome learning disabilities with a tutor, fill out disability paperwork to receive aid, take one's ADHD meds, go to AAA meetings and address whatever the underlying problem is. But what about the families/friends of those who are disadvantaged and NOT on drugs, who do NOT have criminal histories, who DO want to work? I can only urge readers that if your fear for that disadvantaged individual is more likely to translate into criticism rather than actual help, acknowledge the counterproductive nature of such an attitude. Go easy on those who are about to lose everything. The last thing anyone needs in these hard-luck times is the feeling that they are also losing the better side of YOU to the anger, guilt, helplessness or fear of these dire circumstances. The world isn't the same as it was 5 years ago. It is so much easier to assign blame rather than to extend a helping hand, but it's not necessarily the right thing to do.

Of all things nasty about this difficult economy, perhaps the biggest tragedy is the relationships that fray because of it. That need not happen! It is up to families and extended families to BEHAVE LIKE FAMILIES (and even friends to recognize when that isn't happening and to take some action, no matter how small). Too many people who were formerly productive members of society are finding, just when they need it most, that the world is filled with fair-weather friends and even worse, fair-weather family members who don't want to make sacrifices to help out their own. Excuses are easy to come by when the underlying sentiment is rooted in anxiety or selfishness: Grievances will be emphasized to justify the distance and the emotional disconnect. It's a sad fact of life. We all must struggle to be the "bigger person" --- to forgive one another of our shortcomings in these difficult times.

We have a strong individualist streak in American culture, a sense of self sufficiency that can make us strong yet also threatens to make us indifferent. None of us want to give up our single-family lifestyle or take in boarders (family or otherwise). It' not what we're accustomed to. Just the same, try to fight the temptation to skip out on someone you may know who needs assistance. The way this economy is going, next time you might find yourself on the other side of the employment fence --- in which case it will only help to know a few people who are inclined to return the favor.

Above all, remember: Bad things don't necessarily happen to bad people. Ours is an unfair world where you can't always reap the benefits of your best efforts. That doesn't mean you should give up on yourself --- or believe others who are inclined to give up on YOU. Hard times can happen to anyone, even the best of us. The proverbial Golden Rule isn't just some archaic ideal --- it's exactly what we will need if we are to band together and overcome these tough times with both our consciences and the roofs over our heads intact. Never give up on yourself and never give up on each other!
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dragonfirefourtwenty
i am 28 and homeless right now also and i am in about the same situation as your son i have been staying with family and friends, sleeping in parks i have broken into buildings and such, slept in vehicles i have owned, all in the past 10 yrs. i was diagnosed with impulse control disorder, depression, ptsd, and adhd since i was 11 and i am fighting for disability at this time but i just cant seem to straighten things out i feel as though i am chasing my tail again and again. if i put my mind to it i can get a legit job but it normally last a cpl months then i get fired for one ting or another or i get laid off in just the right way so i cant get unemployment. i was turned down for health insurance here in maine for 5 yrs then i finally got it about a moth before i got a 3rd degree burn on my hand. i have also been turned down for general assistance by multiple cities even though they say its a last resort option! i am at my last resort!!! the only advice i can give your son is the same advice i keep in mind everyday of my life, which is try to keep optomistic about things and keep fighting for help and talk to lawyers if needed.... for both of our sakes i hope this advice helps soon... all the best of luck to your boy i hope that he finds his place in life soon
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snooze29
If he is homeless and your Husband will not let him live there..EWhy cant he at least use your address?
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doe doe
 in response to mmh777...   hI I was reading your letter and it helps to know im not alone either. My son is 22 and does use drugs and has been in prison. No job history and homeless. I live with my male friend for the last 10 years and my son has burnt that bridge with liveing at home.So he is out their with a female tagging alone with him. I let his use my car to sleep in and run the streets in because it gives him away to be able to go from house to house. But my boy friend does not approve and we fight about it all the time. Mom from cal
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worried mom in cali
 in response to worried mom in Kansas...   I am almost in the exact situation as you with the exception of a younger child at home...im in california - but if you find any resources, please share. bless you & yours
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goodnewsforyou
 in response to worried mom in Kansas...   get him to a psychiatrist for help
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worried mom in Kansas
 in response to mmh777...   While searching for help for my son, I came across this post. I am in a very similar situation. When my son was 18, he moved out a week after graduating high school. He did not want to follow house rules (e.g. party all night, sleep all day). I knew he would struggle, but he wouldn't listen. The arguements escalated. After 8 months, he was really down on his luck, dirty, thin. We allowed him to move back home and help him get back on his feet. Again, after only one month, he resorted back to the same old crap. Twisting it, as if it was all my fault that he is in the mess he is in. He is now 19, calling me saying he fu@#$% up his life, etc. I don't want him back home because of his mouth and attitude. He can't seem to hold a job, etc. He isn't on cocaine, but he dabbles in pot and smokes. He is really impulsive, ADHD diagnosed. I feel so guilty not asking him to come back home. I don't want him on the street. I just feel sick, but I have a younger child at home and I don't want him negatively influenced. How do I help without enabling him in continuing the bad behavior and poor work ethic? I have bought him groceries, but now he says he will be homeless in a few days because the guy he is staying with is getting evicted and moving away. This kid can't even get into the military. He can't pass the entrance exam. Any suggestions?
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Dave H
I believe 90 per cent of the Homeless have a disorder of some sort that keeps them from finding work. I believe every person should have a place of their own to call home, free from City and State Ordnance.

Other disorder; going through garbage for income. Not wanting, being told what to do. Committed a crime, Not having a place to live without the Police making you move somewhere else, Family problems, child support, divorce, other Homeless stealing your belongings. Feeling sorry for yourself, Getting beat-up. Loosing your vehicle because no insurance. There are many reasons for a mental disorder as there are people. Do you think living in the streets is normal behavior? When you’re out in the streets there are very few people you can trust.

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hopeless in Michigan
 in response to mmh777...   

Here in Michigan it is absolutley heartless right now, there are no jobs, minamum wages do not get you an apartment or transportation. Its freezing out. I had to send my son to his brothers in california. He is also bipolar also and trying to get a job. My daughter is now without a car because she doesnt have  enough money to fix it, no place to live but to come home. Its so sad, these adults at least mine have the work ethic but no place to put it in use. Its a strain on us and our marriage also. ALso our finances, we are at a loss as of what to do. She cant get another job even if she could find one without a car, and she cant make enought to maintain a car and insurance let alone a place to stay! I do feel for you and your husband, I dont coddle my children and do not want them back with us, but with my daugher we are out of luck and my son well I pray each day he makes it out west, because there is nothing here for him at all, except snow and ice and NO JOBS that pay enough for a place to live and with no mass transportation, well we are all out of luck.. No solutions here either! ALl I know is a cant stand living with my kids, cant bear to see them in this situation either...

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phil collins

The best thing for you to do is to tell your son to put your address as his permanent address on any job application. They won't check up on the address, they never have for me and that's what I always do. Good luck to your son -- and divorce your stupid husband.

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mmh777

Hi Betty. My situation with my son is the same, down to the Step-Father syndrome. It is a nightmare and have been in between them for years. My son is twenty five. I believe he is bipolar, and uses cocaine. Between the two of these problems.. you can see there are serious problems for my son to overcome. The worst part for me, (and I am reading from you?) is that we are not allowed to give them safe haven. I actually understand the reason(s), to make him do it on his own. I want this for him too. But it is impossible because he creates his own problems by using coke. Unfortunately, bipolar is impossible to overcome without meds. So he is in double jeapordy. BTW, bipolar has a twenty percent mortality rate due to suicide. This really scares me. He called last night (collect, no 35 cents...) to ask that I order a pizza so he could eat. It is pitiful and painful. Regarding your son and an address, I have told my son to say his perm address is with me, and he stays with friends to come into town to work during the week. (we live in the country, another reason he can't stay here.. no jobs...) He is not employable for more than a day or two. No work history of any substance. I don't know how he will make it, or how I would handle the guilt if something bad happens to him. I am prepared, however, if he goes to the county jail for the many legal mess he has created for himself. Of course, he wouldn't be in this mess if he had only lived with me... that's the feeling I have. more guilt. I have also been told by a few people that I am the problem with him. I don't see it, but I guess I have to get out of the way. Near impossible. I'm telling you all of this so you will know you are not alone in these problems. They are oftentimes unbearable, and no one to talk to about it (not the husband for sure, talk about a rant...) I've bookmarked this page and will check back periodically and we can compare notes. Maybe between the two of us, we can come up with some good news... Keep the faith... Maryann

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